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| Rose |
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| William |
| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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I am no expert on this and for that reason, use the All in One SEO plugin and do noindex my categories. I like the plugin and feel the author gives top rate support on his site. But I am always open to another view on any subject.
Are you saying, Dane, that if you somehow have excerpts on the category pages, then you don't have to noindex them because they won't be exact dupes of the single page full posts?
If you do that, wouldn't the category excerpts be duplicated on your blog's front page where you have the most recent post in full and the rest in excerpt form? I often wonder about this as it seems no matter what you do, your blogs main page would contain content duplicate to the single post pages. It seems to a non-engineer like me that the search engines should be smart enough to only penalize for duplicate content if it is on different domains. Is something wrong with that logic?
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| DaneMorgan |
| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| William wrote: | I am no expert on this and for that reason, use the All in One SEO plugin and do noindex my categories. I like the plugin and feel the author gives top rate support on his site. But I am always open to another view on any subject.
Are you saying, Dane, that if you somehow have excerpts on the category pages, then you don't have to noindex them because they won't be exact dupes of the single page full posts?
If you do that, wouldn't the category excerpts be duplicated on your blog's front page where you have the most recent post in full and the rest in excerpt form? I often wonder about this as it seems no matter what you do, your blogs main page would contain content duplicate to the single post pages. It seems to a non-engineer like me that the search engines should be smart enough to only penalize for duplicate content if it is on different domains. Is something wrong with that logic? |
Well, sure, the newest post on my blog has a duplicate both on the front page and on the single for the full post text.
The next 4 -9 (depending on the blog) have the excerpt duplicated on the front page and on the category page.
But remember that the duplication for the first post full text won't last more than a day or three, and the excerpt for any given post won't be duped more than about a week and a half to two weeks.
And remember that Google knows what blogs are. they LIKE blogs. They liked blogs when blogs duped a lot more than they do now. Google expects dupes.
Also something to consider is that if you listen to Cutts, and you would be wise to do so, he says that dupe content can only peripherally throw you into the supplemental if it steals PR from the other page with the same content. You pages go into the Supplemental based on PR, not dupe content.
Still, we want to make sure that our content is not duped too much because we want to be able to accurately and consistently predict which pages will perform.
A couple things to bear in mind. My process is NOT for everyone. It's for high touch, relationship type blogs. Because you have to look at the fact that I write an article, then I write a brief description of (ad for) the article, then I write up to 5 one liners for the article.
Then I write comments relevant to the article at other places (blogs and forums) where I find discussions about the same topic as the article. I mean laser focused here.
But since at DaneMorgan.com, I have a few of my category pages and quite a large number of my tag pages in the supplemental, if I were to no index them, sure they would come out of the supplemental, but so would a lot of other category and tag pages come out of the main index. Not a trade I'm willing to make at all. I'd rather have some of my pages in the supplemental, than none of my pages in any index, you know?
The SEOs have all of these brilliant theories and neat charts, but sometimes you have to look at things from a practical stand point and say, wait, this isn't a vacuum. How does this Broad and drastic change to this aspect effect that other aspect over there. I think a lot of SEOs fail to look beyond the immediate concern. It's like releasing and endangered predator into the wild to repopulate, but not thinking about the endangered prey that live a quarter mile down the stream. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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I added the All in One SEO plugin and we had to disable it. There seems to be a conflict between this plugin and the Anarchy Media Player plugin. When I activated the All in One SEO Pack, the youtube videos that I posted on my blog quit working. When I deactivated it the player started working again. It has also caused problems with Simpletags.
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| DaneMorgan |
| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I can kinda understand where it might conflict with a tagging plugin, because in a lot of ways they are both acting on the same data and both manipulating it for diffetrent purposes, but conflicting the media player seems weird to me.
This is part of why I have started adopting a policy of doing as much as I can from the templates and trying to reduce the number of plugins I rely on (and I rely on a great whopping lot of them  . |
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| William |
| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Rose, I see you posted about the Anarchy conflict over at AIOSEO and he had the fix out the same day. That is what I really like about the plugin, the author's support. So many of the WordPress plugins and themes are put out and then never updated etc. |
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| Rose |
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